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	<description>I'm just a guy who's into stuff.</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 00:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To follow up, I have listened to the newest CD now and I feel very strongly about how very ordinary this dude is. I daresay that some of it sounds like Sublime. 

&lt;em&gt;Yeah, I said it&lt;/em&gt;. 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sublime&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To follow up, I have listened to the newest CD now and I feel very strongly about how very ordinary this dude is. I daresay that some of it sounds like Sublime. </p>
<p><em>Yeah, I said it</em>. </p>
<p><em><b>Sublime</b></em></p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 05:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better yet, let's go to Tokyo Rose's page and talk about that cute girl drummer they used to have.  Wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better yet, let&#8217;s go to Tokyo Rose&#8217;s page and talk about that cute girl drummer they used to have.  Wait&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, man. It's my message board. I guess we &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; go talk about Hendrix on Tokyo Rose's page or something.. but I don't think anyone would know what we're talking about. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, man. It&#8217;s my message board. I guess we <em>could</em> go talk about Hendrix on Tokyo Rose&#8217;s page or something.. but I don&#8217;t think anyone would know what we&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nerd!!! When you have a conversation with your girlfriend on your own message board about whether or not hendrix whatever....Nerd!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nerd!!! When you have a conversation with your girlfriend on your own message board about whether or not hendrix whatever&#8230;.Nerd!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points about Jimi both of you.  

Kim:  I'm with you that a lot of youngsters are impressed by Jimi now because he's a black guitarist.  I'm a youngster myself, but I got into Jimi through my dad, who was an original fan from back in the 60s, so I'm exempt from this rule, I think...

Justin:  I've thought about Jimi's death and how it had affected his legacy.  My gut tells me he'd probably still be making good, but not great music, but my brain tells me that he probably would have had a stagnant period, say, in the 80s maybe, before bursting back on the scene in the 90s like many of his contemporaries did.  I don't think his career trajectory, even at its worst, would have been as bad as Clapton, though.

But back on topic.  My take about Matisyahu is that it's more the record company executives driving his "Look!  He's Jewish!" popularity and less the American record-buying public.  A lot of people listen to the radio and don't really have the time to "dig" on the internet, or in local music mags, or spend money on obscure CDs, and gravitate towards things they see and hear on the big stage.  If Matisyahu is more popular than Damien Marley, that's the doings of record companies, if you ask me.  If a Jamaican reggae artist was pushed as much as Matisyahu is (I can see him coming up through the floor here at work, but I digress...) then I'm sure mainstream America would be snatching up and enjoying their CDs as well.

Or maybe Matisyahu has struck a chord because of his music, I don't know.  I'm with you again on this one Justin: he's not bad, but not great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points about Jimi both of you.  </p>
<p>Kim:  I&#8217;m with you that a lot of youngsters are impressed by Jimi now because he&#8217;s a black guitarist.  I&#8217;m a youngster myself, but I got into Jimi through my dad, who was an original fan from back in the 60s, so I&#8217;m exempt from this rule, I think&#8230;</p>
<p>Justin:  I&#8217;ve thought about Jimi&#8217;s death and how it had affected his legacy.  My gut tells me he&#8217;d probably still be making good, but not great music, but my brain tells me that he probably would have had a stagnant period, say, in the 80s maybe, before bursting back on the scene in the 90s like many of his contemporaries did.  I don&#8217;t think his career trajectory, even at its worst, would have been as bad as Clapton, though.</p>
<p>But back on topic.  My take about Matisyahu is that it&#8217;s more the record company executives driving his &#8220;Look!  He&#8217;s Jewish!&#8221; popularity and less the American record-buying public.  A lot of people listen to the radio and don&#8217;t really have the time to &#8220;dig&#8221; on the internet, or in local music mags, or spend money on obscure CDs, and gravitate towards things they see and hear on the big stage.  If Matisyahu is more popular than Damien Marley, that&#8217;s the doings of record companies, if you ask me.  If a Jamaican reggae artist was pushed as much as Matisyahu is (I can see him coming up through the floor here at work, but I digress&#8230;) then I&#8217;m sure mainstream America would be snatching up and enjoying their CDs as well.</p>
<p>Or maybe Matisyahu has struck a chord because of his music, I don&#8217;t know.  I&#8217;m with you again on this one Justin: he&#8217;s not bad, but not great.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-354</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition, before anyone else wants to jump on me about what I think, I can't say much for the time of Hendrix because I wasn't even alive then.  I have no experience with those movements, the social climate, or the musical tastes/trends.  I can comment on what is going on now -- in THIS day and age.  The day and age where the gimmick sells more than the music.  The day and age when the music video can dictate how well or how badly an album does on the charts.  How the music sounds gets people listening to the song on the radio, but how the lead singer looks gets people to buy the CD in the stores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition, before anyone else wants to jump on me about what I think, I can&#8217;t say much for the time of Hendrix because I wasn&#8217;t even alive then.  I have no experience with those movements, the social climate, or the musical tastes/trends.  I can comment on what is going on now &#8212; in THIS day and age.  The day and age where the gimmick sells more than the music.  The day and age when the music video can dictate how well or how badly an album does on the charts.  How the music sounds gets people listening to the song on the radio, but how the lead singer looks gets people to buy the CD in the stores.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 03:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying, or maybe I was the one who was not clear.  Hendrix's success wasn't based on his skin color.  I totally agree with you on that.  However, I feel that the knowledge of Hendrix among younger generations (mind you, I'm talking about people  younger than I am) is largely based upon his skin color.  Justin, when you said, "At that time, African-Americans had not yet abandoned rock and roll and it was not yet viewed as the â€œwhite musicâ€ our generation might see it as today" you were right.  At least, I'll give you that since you are the music person and I am not.  But every kid knows who Hendrix is...even if they ONLY know him as a black guitarist.  They may or may not know Jimmy Page from their own asshole...or maybe they just know him as "the guy who has the song that sounds a lot like P. Diddy's 'Come With Me'".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re misinterpreting what I&#8217;m saying, or maybe I was the one who was not clear.  Hendrix&#8217;s success wasn&#8217;t based on his skin color.  I totally agree with you on that.  However, I feel that the knowledge of Hendrix among younger generations (mind you, I&#8217;m talking about people  younger than I am) is largely based upon his skin color.  Justin, when you said, &#8220;At that time, African-Americans had not yet abandoned rock and roll and it was not yet viewed as the â€œwhite musicâ€ our generation might see it as today&#8221; you were right.  At least, I&#8217;ll give you that since you are the music person and I am not.  But every kid knows who Hendrix is&#8230;even if they ONLY know him as a black guitarist.  They may or may not know Jimmy Page from their own asshole&#8230;or maybe they just know him as &#8220;the guy who has the song that sounds a lot like P. Diddy&#8217;s &#8216;Come With Me&#8217;&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point has been that Matisyahu isn't really mind-blowing as a Reggae artist, but we &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; blown away by the fact that a Jewish guy can deliver such an authentic performance in the genre, and it is obvious (to me) that this the reason we are into it. I just think it's a little fucked up. As Kim said, no one is buying CDs of these artists who have long been in locked in obscurity, and, more to the point, their music is not being promoted in the mainstream. That new Damian Marley record, for instance, is also very good, but if his name was Damian Jenkins I doubt he would have had such a heavy promo campaign behind him. There are other people out there working twice as hard and getting half as much in return. 

However, Kim, you are on your own with that hendrix thing. I personally don't think Hendrix being black had anything to do with his popularity in the 60's counterculture (in the US anyway). At that time, African-Americans had not yet abandoned rock and roll and it was not yet viewed as the "white music" our generation might see it as today. It would not have been shocking or gimicky to see a black man play guitar in 1964 in the way that seeing a Jewish dude rap might be today. Perhaps, when Hendrix was in the UK, being black may have worked to his advantage, but simply because American rhythm and blues was so big with the young crowd over there that they might have viewed him as "more authentic." Maybe not. 

This is sort of unrelated, but, I am a big Hendrix fan but I often wonder how his death has affected the way we remember him. If he had survived the 70's and we had to deal with Jimi's "junkie albums" or an abyssmal 80's career (a la Clapton) or comeback albums where Jimi collaborated with younger artists who weren't even alive when he played Woodstock, on which, he plays badass solos over horrible songs (a la Santana) would we still feel the same way that we do about him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point has been that Matisyahu isn&#8217;t really mind-blowing as a Reggae artist, but we <em>are</em> blown away by the fact that a Jewish guy can deliver such an authentic performance in the genre, and it is obvious (to me) that this the reason we are into it. I just think it&#8217;s a little fucked up. As Kim said, no one is buying CDs of these artists who have long been in locked in obscurity, and, more to the point, their music is not being promoted in the mainstream. That new Damian Marley record, for instance, is also very good, but if his name was Damian Jenkins I doubt he would have had such a heavy promo campaign behind him. There are other people out there working twice as hard and getting half as much in return. </p>
<p>However, Kim, you are on your own with that hendrix thing. I personally don&#8217;t think Hendrix being black had anything to do with his popularity in the 60&#8217;s counterculture (in the US anyway). At that time, African-Americans had not yet abandoned rock and roll and it was not yet viewed as the &#8220;white music&#8221; our generation might see it as today. It would not have been shocking or gimicky to see a black man play guitar in 1964 in the way that seeing a Jewish dude rap might be today. Perhaps, when Hendrix was in the UK, being black may have worked to his advantage, but simply because American rhythm and blues was so big with the young crowd over there that they might have viewed him as &#8220;more authentic.&#8221; Maybe not. </p>
<p>This is sort of unrelated, but, I am a big Hendrix fan but I often wonder how his death has affected the way we remember him. If he had survived the 70&#8217;s and we had to deal with Jimi&#8217;s &#8220;junkie albums&#8221; or an abyssmal 80&#8217;s career (a la Clapton) or comeback albums where Jimi collaborated with younger artists who weren&#8217;t even alive when he played Woodstock, on which, he plays badass solos over horrible songs (a la Santana) would we still feel the same way that we do about him?</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely.  To a degree, that is.  Probably only .5% of that is true, and the other 99.5% of that I attribute to talent.  Your gimmick gets your foot in the door, but your talent and innovation gives you staying power.  I don't think Matisyahu and Stone have that.  If you listen to their music it's mediocre, nothing special.  If Alpha Blondie* put out King Without a Crown (or whatever it's called) it wouldn't be a big deal.  SInce it's a white guy performing that song...a Jew, no less...that makes it "special" somehow.

*Not knocking Alpha Blondie.  I love Alpha Blondie.  Just thought I'd say that before someone tries to twist it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely.  To a degree, that is.  Probably only .5% of that is true, and the other 99.5% of that I attribute to talent.  Your gimmick gets your foot in the door, but your talent and innovation gives you staying power.  I don&#8217;t think Matisyahu and Stone have that.  If you listen to their music it&#8217;s mediocre, nothing special.  If Alpha Blondie* put out King Without a Crown (or whatever it&#8217;s called) it wouldn&#8217;t be a big deal.  SInce it&#8217;s a white guy performing that song&#8230;a Jew, no less&#8230;that makes it &#8220;special&#8221; somehow.</p>
<p>*Not knocking Alpha Blondie.  I love Alpha Blondie.  Just thought I&#8217;d say that before someone tries to twist it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By this logic, was Jimi Hendrix was huge because he was a black hippie guy playing psychadellic rock and roll?</description>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's what I like to call Joss Stone phenomenon.  Yeah, she has a good voice.  I never said the girl wasn't talented, but I don't think anyone would look twice at her if she weren't a white girl from England.  That's her selling point.  That's what makes her albums make it off the shelves.  In all honesty, I think she's good and not great.  In fact, if she were a black girl with that same voice you might say she sounds terrible.  Just like your Matisyahu example it's like, "She sings funk and soul!!! And, OMG, she's a white girl from England!!!"  Get over it.

Don't even get me started on Alicia Keys...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s what I like to call Joss Stone phenomenon.  Yeah, she has a good voice.  I never said the girl wasn&#8217;t talented, but I don&#8217;t think anyone would look twice at her if she weren&#8217;t a white girl from England.  That&#8217;s her selling point.  That&#8217;s what makes her albums make it off the shelves.  In all honesty, I think she&#8217;s good and not great.  In fact, if she were a black girl with that same voice you might say she sounds terrible.  Just like your Matisyahu example it&#8217;s like, &#8220;She sings funk and soul!!! And, OMG, she&#8217;s a white girl from England!!!&#8221;  Get over it.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even get me started on Alicia Keys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: drew</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have i told you lately that i love you?</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. I do not think he's a gimmick. He's a real guy. He's a real Jew with a real talent who really raps. His sudden burst of popularity is the gimmick and I never implied that he isn't any good. I think he is very talented. I just hate the reason people like it.

Amish Death Metal will be huge.

I am not interested in taking the world by storm. Ever.

Doo-Bop sucks. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. I do not think he&#8217;s a gimmick. He&#8217;s a real guy. He&#8217;s a real Jew with a real talent who really raps. His sudden burst of popularity is the gimmick and I never implied that he isn&#8217;t any good. I think he is very talented. I just hate the reason people like it.</p>
<p>Amish Death Metal will be huge.</p>
<p>I am not interested in taking the world by storm. Ever.</p>
<p>Doo-Bop sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: drew</title>
		<link>http://lowquality.net/2006/163/comment-page-1/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you raise good points justin....but (as is your fashion) come across as being critical of american taste for the sake of being critical.  yes, he is jewish.  yes, he sings reggae.  yes, reggae has become very mainstream (thank you time-life bob marley  collection for 3 easy payments of $19.95).  yes, he is from new york; the freaking melting pot, so to speak.  but all that aside.....the dude is talented.  his beat box is the best thing this side of vintage biz markie.  yes, he has a gimmick.  who doesn't?  remember miles and "doo-bop"?  miles took bee-bop and mixed it with some hip hop to get an "original sound".  it was a gimmick though to support an over-inflated ego and heightened drug habit.  man, screw it....i don't care.  

you are right.  the guy has a gimmick and he is selling records.  i like his music.  i own the live album.  i also own the best of barbra steisand.  so what?  they are rich and we are still poor.  piss on 'em.  i still think you are an underrated (and slightly frustrated) bass player who, with the right gimmick, could take the nation by storm!  good props to mc serch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you raise good points justin&#8230;.but (as is your fashion) come across as being critical of american taste for the sake of being critical.  yes, he is jewish.  yes, he sings reggae.  yes, reggae has become very mainstream (thank you time-life bob marley  collection for 3 easy payments of $19.95).  yes, he is from new york; the freaking melting pot, so to speak.  but all that aside&#8230;..the dude is talented.  his beat box is the best thing this side of vintage biz markie.  yes, he has a gimmick.  who doesn&#8217;t?  remember miles and &#8220;doo-bop&#8221;?  miles took bee-bop and mixed it with some hip hop to get an &#8220;original sound&#8221;.  it was a gimmick though to support an over-inflated ego and heightened drug habit.  man, screw it&#8230;.i don&#8217;t care.  </p>
<p>you are right.  the guy has a gimmick and he is selling records.  i like his music.  i own the live album.  i also own the best of barbra steisand.  so what?  they are rich and we are still poor.  piss on &#8216;em.  i still think you are an underrated (and slightly frustrated) bass player who, with the right gimmick, could take the nation by storm!  good props to mc serch!</p>
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